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  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   1 week 2 days ago    

    OK,,You still refuse to state what you think these effective safety systems are.. If a driver needs something to help him do his job,or to be safe then he was never properly trained..
    If the companies you spend time with were to stop lobbying for usless expensive products that they want to force on everyone,,and actually start lobbying for more real hos rules,and better flexibility and start actually training their drivers we would NOT need any help..the numbers would prove we are being safe..
    If you want to level the field as you convey then lets go all the way,,lets make small fleets get the same break on fuel prices as the large companies...Lets give the small fleets extra tax breaks like the large fleets,,lets give the small fleets special financing rates like the large fleets...
    NO SIR we don't get to have things the big companies have but they and you want to force the small fleets to spend money they don't have on things they don't need just so you can have a level playing field?? If you look we can see that the large companies are the ones with the BAD safety why are you wanting to say the rules are not being complied with by the small fleets? NO SIR ,,,the single one most safety problem we have is people that think like you...
    Why are you so adamant about having everyone on ELDs ? Do you think that will make us safe? Do you want to force more drivers to fall into the" idiot that don't know how it works " and thinks he has to sit on the fuel island because he is afraid to move to the other side of the truck stop while on his break? That's what is happening to these idiots that are NOT trained...I don't like ELDs because I don't need a baby sitter,and refuse to be monitored to that extent...I am one that will stand up for my rights..I am the kind of person that is not afraid to take on the world ..I took IRS to federal tax court, represented myself and I won. That's the reason I will never use ELDs.. I can tell you are one that believes that ELDs means that you are running in compliance,,but that is far from true...There is nothing in any ELD that makes it 100% compliant. So if I did run one I would still not do like the big company wants me to,I would decide when I needed a nap and would take one...I would never do like the idiots that make the rules want me to do.I will always put safety over compliance every time//
    When are you people that think you know trucking because you went to school a few extra years going to learn that compliance and safety are two different things,you cant legislate SAFETY,and in trying to do so you have made the roads more dangerous..Every time you hire a driver and don't train him ,every time you try to force a driver to drive when he should have stopped to wait out traffic ..and an accident happens ,,,you should be held responsible for the accident ,because you lobbyed for FMCSA to pass rules that kills people....
    No sir I will not ever be using an ELD.....and I bet while I was writing this at least one driver of a company that does use them had a violation and at least one had an accident

  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   1 week 2 days ago    

    Proper driver training is indeed a cornerstone of highway safety. Effective safety systems need to be designed to help drivers do their jobs more effectively and efficiently -- and safely. But some of those systems are going to audit rules compliance, to ensure that everyone is playing by those rules.
    I'm curious why you're so opposed to ELDs. I have little doubt that ELDs will be in every truck very soon, and if you're driving legally, I don't see why that should bother you.

  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   1 week 3 days ago    

    How about some examples of what your talking about.
    Safety improvements is a broad description .
    Are you talking ELDs ? Are you talking crash avoidance devices ? Or are you talking the single most important thing on safety that can not be overlooked or replaced with any device,,,,,,,,TRAINING. The driver... The fleets that train the driver and have less turnover are always the safest fleets,but you never want to admit that

  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   1 week 3 days ago    

    Please tell me just how you think my view will not fly.
    Well intentioned ? You and the people you talk with that don't know the real world may call them that ,but my friend we all know that safety can not be legislated .
    The ongoing defiance of companies to better train and realize the actual problems is the single most contributor to the safety problem.
    The fact is the ones you try to support in your statements are the ones causing the problem.
    Yes we need better rules and regulations ,but every time FMCSA has a listening session they make it hard for drivers to get there,and then the company fools come along and get things like ELD or speed limiters suggested ...
    You continue to avoid the single most factor in safety,and that's driver training . Fleets don't want to spend money on training ,it leaves when the driver leaves,but Eloise , crash avoidance equipment etc. is counted off their taxes and something they retain when the driver leaves.
    I will never drive with an ELD ,I will quit first.
    I found this story via a link on OOIDA fb page,if you really want to know what people that know trucking think about your story go look at the 80 comments there...
    You may know publishing but you don't have a clue about safety.. Compliance can be legislated but safety can never be successfully legislated...
    Come ride in a truck for a couple weeks if you want to learn truckiinh

  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   1 week 3 days ago    

    Ed, I'm sorry to say that you're view of the safety world just isn't going to fly. The more fleets resist well-intentioned moves by regulators to increase highway safety, the more likely fleets are to find new regulations imposed upon them. I believe trucking needs to work with regulators to put in place a reasonable set of rules that encourage the highest level of safe operations and permit fleets and drivers to make a good living. And you can count on having electronic monitoring devices in your tractor to verify HOS compliance.

  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   1 week 4 days ago    

    They do enforce the rules for all fleets,,But the rules have nothing to do with SAFETY..
    So enfocment of the rules has nothing to do with it..
    How can you call your self an expert and still NOT understand the problems we have ? You are a expert at media,or maybe publishing,but you are far from an expert on what the industry needs to be safe..
    The equipment that you think we need is not going to make the driver safe. I think this has been proven several times in the last year. The Wal Mart truck involved in the Tracy Morgan accident had all the required so called safety equipment plus a couple of things people like you are pushing for.Yet they all failed to prevent the accident,We have still not found out just how safe the Van was,or how safe the driver of the van was,the entire focus has been on the TRUCK DRIVER,,Now you tell me what magic wand your going to wave to prevent media from doing that. The companies involved and the industry are all trying to BLAME the driver,some even focus on the carrier. ITS NOT the public that is the problem its the media,and you writing articles trying to say the industry needs more rules and more equipment ? You should be writing a story about what we need to do when things like this happen to get the TRUTH out ,,instead of claiming we need to step up,,and do more things like Europe..
    I have to disagree with you on every point you tried to make,And when you say things like we need to make them crack down,and we should set a GOLD STANDARD ,that just shows how misinformed you really are..You may get some CEO to believe you,or maybe even some safety director that never gets out of his office,but for the drivers and the hands on people in this industry that see what the problems are ,you sound more like the enemy than you do a friend.
    Thanks for letting me rant,even if you don't let my rant get through.

  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   1 week 5 days ago    

    Well Mr Brady,I don't agree with your statement that TRUCKING struggles with retention of drivers..Fact is the smaller companies that hire well traind safe drivers don't have that problem,,so TRUCKING does not have that problem,,,BIG companies that would rather spend money on equipment or spend it on convincing a senator to vote their way,or waste money on ATA ,,those are the ones with the problem...That along with trying to put a burden on small companies that know how to make it work,,and then the large companies lobby to force small companies to add and have things and rules that have nothing to do with safety... No TRUCKING does not have a problem ...We have a problem with big trucking companies,
    The training you laid out is as undesirable now as it was three years ago,and still does not make any sense at all...
    You keep going back to CEUs ,,that is what is wrong now,,,people think you can TEACH this stuff in a class room...
    No Some of the best and safest drivers I have ever known would not have been able to pass a class ,and a couple had to take the verbal CDL test...
    The comprehensive program is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard..I don't know how anyone could think it would help anything...Some drivers don't want to be master trainers,,so you think they should not be paid as much??
    WE need a lot of changes to happen,but not that one,,and we have gone to far to bring back the well trained safety minded drivers that have been ran out of the business with unwarranted regulations and rules..To make it harder for a driver to be trained and have to go through years of schooling and steps to get to a point that has nothing to do with real skills but education is absurd.. Some driver will tell you they have been here for 10 years but when you talk to them they have had 2 years of experience 5 times...
    I think we all need to keep thinking of what will make us better and safer,,but some things just don't work out...I have had some ideas that when shared with others found reasons that it would not make sense as well..
    The companies that are complaining about bad public views are actually the ones causing the problem...along with the media..Wal Mart is one of the most compliant company there is and the accident in New Jersey was with a truck with all the things ATA want to force on us all,,and instead of making sure the media didn't mislead the public,the large companies along with ATA just used it to try to lobby for more rules and regulations..
    Yes we need better training,,but If a driver is trained and the company treats him right he will stay...For him to be required to have more training will not make him stay with that company...he would still go to another company and continue his steps to that does nothing for retention..A driver will leave a company for little things,and he will just as well stay over little things
    I have seen driver stay just because the boss called him on occasion and asked if he needed anything or had any problems,,I have known drivers to quit because the person in the office was trying to tell them what rout to take.. .

  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   1 week 5 days ago    

    Howard,,your last comment shows even more that you DONT GET IT..
    We are not saying FMCSA needs to better enforce anything,,we are saying the FMCSA needs to change the rules to better suite real life.. The rules are not working in fact are making it worse,and big fleets that want more rules from FMCSA are the problem..We don't care if they want to use ELOGS just don't force everyone to use something we don't need..WE have trained drivers that understand HOS rules,some even better than the Law enforcement officer,,So we don't need it..
    We need flexibility because our drivers are traind to know when they need rest and don't want to be forced to be noncompliant to be safe..
    The other problem you have is the term " TRUCKING INDUSTRY" There is no such thing as that in reguards to gompliance or rules or hos requirments ,or way of doing business,or what is needed.
    I in no way will be working with ATA and what they think "WE" need.. The large companies want one thing but more than that they want to hurt the smaller companies...So when talking about required systems or rules or regulations we don't want to be grouped as ONE....
    The last statement is even more confusing,,TRUCKING setting the GOLD STANDARD ??? Actually the small companies and Owner Operators have been setting this mark for years,the very companies that are complaining about them are in fact having more crashes more often and want to blame "THE INDUSTRY"
    Just my opinion
    and I am an expert,on my opinion
    Ed McMahan

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  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   1 week 6 days ago    

    I agree with you. The trucking industry should be demanding that FMCSA enforce the rules for all fleets. And trucking should be encouraging the regulators to crack down on unsafe practices by non-professional drivers. Trucking should be setting the gold-standard for safe highway behavior, since the nation's roadways are our workplace.

  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   2 weeks 11 hours ago    

    "And most motorists have been witness to bizarre antics by some trucker", the KEY word being SOME as in SOME bizarre antics by private passenger drivers, also. SOME does leave space for the thousands upon thousands of SAFE professional and private passenger drivers. My husband has been a safe driver since 1981 and he is only one of the thousands that have logged billions of miles safely. Riding with him daily, I observe so many poor driving habits of both professional and private passenger drivers, but there are fortunately, far more safe drivers. I witness both types of drivers pile up on each other without any type of safe space. Ironically, when a LARGE truck does leave that space, a private passenger vehicle will zoom into that space with no thought as to why that space is there. Does it not scare you that some companies allow a driver with as little as 6 months commercial driving experience to begin training other drivers? Does it not scare you that in 2013 there were 87,000 commercial drivers cited in inspections for being "unable to speak English" (which doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they can't read English either)? Check Federal Highway Safety Administration's's there. Does it not bother you that CSA didn't meet it's goals to get "bad actors" off the road? Time and time again, it took a fatality for CSA to then investigate and remove the company (often citing how many violations the company had BEFORE the fatality). Ironically, Walmart has been in the limelight and they are one of the few large companies that show less than 10% violations on all BASIC's. Wonder why the industry resists? Drivers are forced to drive 11 hours daily whereas the prior regs allowed breaking up hours for short rests, shipper delay, rush hours, etc. Study after study has proven "inconclusive" but yet, regs are put into effect and when they prove to be unsafe, there are no consequences to FMCSA, only to the industry. And if you think insurance premiums are going to reduce, think again. I worked in insurance when Michigan implemented No Fault and was "touted" as ultimately reducing premiums. Fifteen years later, premiums reached record highs. Just because they "say it will" doesn't mean it will...let's get down to the fact that both commercial and private passenger drivers need to be better trained.

  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   2 weeks 11 hours ago    

    I completely agree with you that the driver is the key factor in safe trucking operations. And I fully endorse your statement that drivers today should not be forced to choose between operating in accordance with the law and earning a living.

  • Why is the trucking industry so resistant to new safety regulations and technologies?   2 weeks 11 hours ago    

    The comparison I made had to do with how the airline industry has done a much better job convincing the public that it is invested in improving safety in the sky than trucking has the motoring public believing in its attitude toward safety improvements. I was suggesting that a more positive, pro-active stance by trucking would yield great gains with the public in general and government regulators in particular.

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